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miércoles, 29 de diciembre de 2010
domingo, 26 de diciembre de 2010
lunes, 20 de diciembre de 2010
Navia Caótica (Libro- Cd)
Nos ha llegado la siguiente información acerca de un futuro libro que saldrá en breve y que tratará sobre la escena musical de Navia (Asturias). La obra contendrá un directorio con fichas de 170 bandas de la zona y un Cd con 27 temas. Os dejo el texto de promoción del proyecto:
¿Qué era Navia Caótica?
Navia Caótica era el nombre con que los grupos hardcore punk de Navia se referían a su villa natal: Navia (Asturias).
¿Qué es Navia Caótica?
Navia Caótica es un libro que resume la historia de casi 30 años de rock en el occidente asturiano (en general), y narra detalladamente la eclosión y declive de una activa escena hardcore punk a mediados y finales de los años 90 (en concreto).
En sus páginas aparecen las bandas de la Navia Caótica Hardcore Punk (Xplosiv Joint, Brain Supermarket, Los Incorregibles Hijos del Zar, Jerk, Disgusting, Slaughterhouse, The Betrayed Bastards, Will, Stunk, One Desire), y otras que, por una u otra razón, desarrollaron alguna relación con la villa de Campoamor (Strangis Guajes, Mass Slaughter, Apple Face, Growing Up, Amenaza Asesina, The Barflies, Outcry, Another Day, Posession). También hay espacio para bandas de los 80 (Dóberman, Pirámide, Pin Pam Punk, Leyenda, Máuser), los grupos de primeros de los 90 (Motín, Redada, Sin Nombre, BH Rockabillyblues, Asfixia, Alto Riesgo, Los Halcones, Réplica), o las formaciones del temido Sindicato de la Defensa (The Attack Of The Fiesta, Amstrad, Papilomitosis, Anticonceptivas, Asturias Blaster, Defensa, Matanza).
Navia Caótica es una coral repleta de personajes, opiniones, conciertos, anécdotas, datos y diferentes formas de entender el hardcore punk, siempre desde un punto de vista inteligente, mordaz y decididamente desligado de estereotipos manidos. En ese sentido, Navia Caótica es un tributo al underground y la forma de entenderlo y vivirlo antes de la aparición de Internet, pero también una crítica a los tics del movimiento.
En resumen, Navia Caótica habla sobre música, punk, arte, underground, estereotipos, política progresista, drogas, existencialismo, locura, aburrimiento, diy, creatividad, straight edge, amistad, vida y muerte. Cualquier músico podría sentirse identificado con algunas de las situaciones que en él se recogen.
¿Cómo puedo leer el libro Navia Caótica?
Muy pronto el libro será publicado, acompañado de un CD recopilatorio, a través del sello Norte Sur Records.
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viernes, 17 de diciembre de 2010
Algunos conciertos para el Fin de Semana...
- Sábado, 18/12/2010: Totälickers- FOK- La Verga Records. CSO La Forsa (Cornellá). 22:00 horas. 2 €
- Sábado, 18/12/2010: La Stasi- Nikotina Assessina- Pisando Güevos- The Saurs. Sala Q 3 (Barcelona). 21:00 horas. 4 €
- Sábado, 18/12/2010: Los Tronchos- Kasparrata- Drink Hunters. Sala KGB (Barcelona). 20:00 horas. 6/ 8 €
martes, 14 de diciembre de 2010
Entrevista a Billy sobre la historia del Punk en Portugal
A fuerza de navegar por algunos de los interesantes blogs portugueses de punk que hay en la red, caí en la cuenta de que no conocía apenas nada de la escena de nuestros “vecinos” pese a lo cerca que están. Tenía obviamente algunos discos y algunos zines, pero me faltaba información al fin y al cabo. Como hace un tiempo contacté con Billy para “pedirle prestado” un video de uno de sus blogs que iba sobre el Rebellion Festival, y como vi entonces que nos podíamos medio entender bien en inglés, decidí enviarle la siguiente entrevista con preguntas genéricas sobre la escena punk de Portugal. No es el trabajo definitivo claro está, pero espero que a partir de los enlaces que Billy nos da, las bandas que nombra y el maravillosos mundo de internet y sus blogs de descarga, poco a poco se vayan dando a conocer más nuestros vecinos punkies de al lado… Y recordad que si decimos Punk Ibérico, en realidad los tendríamos que incluir también a ellos… Gracias a Billy por atender el cuestionario y ahí va!
ALM. Hola, para empezar, preséntate y dinos qué edad tienes, a qué te dedicas y cómo te introdujiste en la música punk (primeros grupos que escuchaste, primeros conciertos, etc).
Billy. Hola, tengo 40 años, trabajé en una compañía de música independiente once años, pero cerró y ahora estoy sin trabajo. Era muy joven cuando oí por primera vez a los Ramones, ellos tocaron en Portugal en 1980 y unos chicos me enseñaron una grabación, canciones, camisetas… y ahí empezó todo. Tan solo dos años después yo comencé a ser realmente un fan del punk y solía juntarme con punks. Más tarde empecé a ver bandas portuguesas en directo, algunas no podríamos denominarlas “punk”, pero yo presté más atención a los conciertos punk y me metí ya de lleno en 1985.
ALM. ¿Podrías hablarnos de tus actividades dentro de la escena (blogs, dj, grupos, fanzines, etc)? ¿Dinos los mejores conciertos que has llegado a ver?
B. Bueno, para mí todo empezó con el blog en 2004, pero siempre fui a conciertos, hablaba con las bandas y compartí buenos momentos de amistad. Toqué el bajo por afición con alguno de ellos. En 1990, la escena punk volvió a ser bastante fuerte aquí, había fanzines que trataban de informar a la gente, pero no lo suficiente. En 1996, cuando The Exploited actuaron por primera vez en Portugal influenciaron a mucha gente (este fue uno de mis memorables conciertos, junto al de Ratos de Porao y el de grandes bandas punk portuguesas como Crise Total, Mata-Ratos y Tara Perdida), toda la escena underground estuvo muy activa, organizándose conciertos, haciéndose fanzines y encuentros… Yo ayudé algo en todo ello. Después fue todo otra vez muy confuso, especialmente en lo que respecta a la información correcta, fechas de conciertos, festivales y cosas como éstas. Entonces decidí empezar Billy News para informar sobre fechas y para que mis amigos no pudieran decir que “No lo sabían”… “Ahora ya sabes dónde buscar”. Otros conciertos que todavía guardo en mi memoria fueron con grupos portugueses en sitios especiales (como el Rock Rendez-Vous en Lisboa, uno de los sitios seminales).
ALM. Creo que en Portugal pasó algo parecido al estado español y debido a la dictadura los movimientos contraculturales (punk, new wave, etc) se dieron a la misma vez al finalizar ésta, ¿Qué banda o bandas se puede considerar como el primer grupo punk que surgió en Portugal y en qué año fue?
B. Bien, estás en lo cierto. Tuvimos un dictador casi cincuenta años y todo terminó en 1974. Tras esto, todo el mundo estuvo muy confundido aquí. Por lo que yo puedo decir, la escena punk empezó en 1979 con la actuación de algunas bandas británicas, Eddie and The Hot Rods y después The Clash. Alguna gente estuvo interesada en la explosión punk de 1977, algunos presentadores de radio y periodistas dieron cuenta de lo que estaba ocurriendo en aquellos tiempos. El primer grupo en publicar una disco fueron Aqui D’El Rock (1979), pero otros estuvieron muy activos: Minas & Armadilhas, Faíscas y Xutos & Pontapés (todavía existen, una de las mejores bandas portuguesas de todos los tiempos). Después el punk bajó, la new wave fue captando más atención y las bandas de punk emergieron de nuevo en 1985.
ALM. ¿Qué zonas o ciudades tuvieron una importante escena punk en los 80? ¿Continúan hoy día siéndolo?
B. Podemos decir las ciudades más importantes, de más estilo urbano: Lisboa, Porto, Coimbra… pero otras algunas veces también promovieron conciertos de punk y escena, como Faro, Aveiro, Leiria o Guarda.
ALM. ¿Tienes constancia de que hubieran problemas entre otras tribus (mods, rockers, heavys, etc..) en aquellos años 80?
B. Muchos de los problemas fueron con los skinheads. En aquellos tiempos la gente simplemente no se llevaban bien entre ellos, pero normalmente no era un problema del todo, solo “malas caras” los unos con los otros cuando se enfrentaban. Rockabillies y metaleros eran tribus muy “cerradas”, haciendo sus propias cosas solo en sitios en los que ellos solían estar, separadamente. Pero estos tiempos pasaron.
ALM. Supongo que en los años 80 aparte de los Ramones, Clash, Sex Pistols, etc, los jóvenes punk empezarían a escuchar también a Discharge, Exploited, Dead Kennedys, etc. ¿Cuáles serían los pioneros en cuanto a sonidos Punk second wave o hard core en Portugal?
B. Muchas bandas estuvieron influenciadas por el sonido Uk 82, especialmente Crise Total, Grito Final, Kú De Judas, Derniere Cri y C.I.A.neto. Más tarde, Injusticed League, Renegados de Boliqueime, Raiva!!!, M.A.D. y muchas más. Incluso Mata-Ratos, que son una banda de punk rock clásico (todavía activos, desde 1982), tuvieron su momento hard core. Algunas otras tuvieron una pequeña influencia en su sonido. Hubieron también con una mezcla de hard core y metal, Corrosão Caótica, 31 y Pé De Cabra. Pero hubieron más.
ALM. ¿Cuál sería el sello o los sellos de referencia para la juventud punk de la época en Portugal? ¿Y qué fanzines?
B. Salieron algunos sellos punk, pero existieron para una sola edición. Tristemente, la mayoría de los fanzines fueron lo mismo. Hasta donde yo sé, nosotros no tuvimos sellos fuertes. Solo después, siendo uno de los más importantes Rastilho (creado en 1996 y aún activo), que envía muchos catálogos, información en papel y fanzines. Alarm! and Fast´N`Loud también lo hicieron. Infected Records están haciendo un gran trabajo.
ALM. Creo que en Portugal también se está dando un poco el fenómeno revival, antiguas bandas de los 80 que vuelven a estar en activo ahora (Peste e Sida, etc). ¿Qué opinas de ello, lo encuentras positivo para la escena actual?
B. Sí, el mejor ejemplo aquí son los Crise Total. Formados en 1983 y disueltos en 1988, volvieron en 1996 por un año y lo hicieron de nuevo el pasado año (en ambos retornos, únicamente tenían dos miembros originales). Peste & Sida fue otra cosa distinta, ellos cambiaron mucho la formación y esto originó malos momentos, se disolvieron casi 8 años después. Ellos volvieron solo una única vez, (también con dos miembros originales), pero hoy en día son un gran grupo. Pienso que si cualquiera en la banda tiene el mismo espíritu, la misma pasión de aquellos primeros momentos, está bien. Las bandas jóvenes, cuando tocan juntos, normalmente les preguntan por algunos temas en los que ellos tienen mayor experiencia y hablan mucho, por lo que puede ser positivo en ambos sentidos. Pero el tiempo no puede volver para atrás, si ellos quieren divertirse, está bien. El principal problema es cuando solo hay un miembro original intentando utilizar el nombre o haciendo un sonido diferente (debería de empezar con otra banda, claro).
ALM. ¿Qué nos puedes explicar acerca de un grupo como Xutos e Pontapés, una banda creo que en sus inicios estuvieron muy ligados a la escena punk y que ahora son una banda de rock muy conocida allí en Portugal?
B. Sí, ya dije que ellos fueron una de las primeras bandas punk de Portugal, nacida en 1979. Es un buen grupo, yo solía llamarlos “Los Rolling Stones portugueses”, pero realmente no he prestado mucha atención a sus últimos álbumes. Después de un tiempo, ellos se alejaron del sonido punk, haciendo solo temas de rock’n’roll, pero en su último disco ellos hicieron algunas letras que en su contexto podríamos sentir el espíritu punk.
ALM. ¿Castigó la heroína mucho a las primeras generaciones de punks en Portugal como pasó en España y en general por todo el mundo? ¿Cuáles fueron las muertes “más insignes” (por ej. En Uk Sid Vicious, en España los Eskorbuto, etc…) en el punk portugués y a qué se debió (drogas, sida, accidentes, etc)?
B. Aquí fue exactamente lo mismo, especialmente a mediados de los años ochenta. La heroína mató a un montón de punks y gente que solían parar juntos (en bandas o sin ellas), fueron cada vez menos y el “movimiento” fue a peor y a casi nada por un tiempo. Muchos grupos se acabaron por esta razón. Los accidentes de coche mataron también a algunos miembros de bandas también, como Carlos Aguilar, batería de Kú De Judas. Otros tuvieron un ataque al corazón, pero aún están vivos.
ALM. ¿Existe una escena grande de anarco punk en Portugal? ¿Cuáles fueron las primeras bandas en reivindicarse anarquistas? ¿Hay movimiento squatt en Portugal y otro tipo de activismo anarco punk?
B. No es grande pero sí ferviente. Algunos grupos hacen reuniones y debates semanalmente, enviando mails con un montón de temas. Son casi un movimiento secreto pero cuando algo pasa en las calles, ellos están ahí. El principal problema en mi opinión es que hay muchos grupos diferentes, tendrían que estar juntos para ser más fuertes. Algunas bandas se llamaron a sí mismas anarquistas, pero sin hacer bandera de ello. Hace años algunos squatts fueron muy fuertes, realizando cosas culturales y sociales, con algunos debates, reuniones y conciertos que cautivaron a mucha gente, pero la policía cerró la mayoría de ellos cuando empezaron a hacerse notar. Hoy en día podemos ver activismo anarco punk por algunos panfletos repartidos mano a mano. Si alguien quiere más información tiene que ir a los encuentros.
ALM. ¿Cuáles fueron las primeras bandas de Oi en Portugal? ¿Es muy grande hoy día la escena skinhead allí? ¿Existen controversias entre los skins y los punks o hay unidad?
B. Tenemos de todo aquí, diferentes skins con diferentes ideas. No realmente unidos a los punks, pero la gente consiguen conocerse los unos a los otros (por personalidad, no estilo), y algunas veces tienen una buena relación organizando conciertos juntos. A veces nos enteramos de algunas peleas, pero no es una cosa habitual. Es difícil decir cuáles fueron las primeras bandas de Oi, Albert Fish es un grupo de punk (1995) los cuales hicieron uno de los primeros llamamientos a la unidad entre punks y skins. Hoy en día hay algunas bandas manteniendo este sentimiento fuerte y activo, como C4, Facção Oposta y Mancha Negra.
Las diferencias con los punks no son realmente “el verdadero problema” o el causante de las agresiones, pero una de las cosas que yo suelo criticar es que ellos no estén unidos. El movimiento punk portugués está lleno de gente que siempre hablan mal de los demás y de las bandas o cosas por el estilo, y yo creo que el espíritu punk es justamente lo contrario. Por ejemplo, si a ti no te gusta un grupo, no le prestes atención... y no des tu mala opinión todo el rato como un loro.
ALM. ¿Hay o ha habido muchas chicas al frente de bandas punk en Portugal? ¿Nos podrías decir algunos nombres de grupos?
B. Algunas veces hemos oído algo sobre ello, pero pronto desaparecen. La última que yo conozco es Un-Predictable. Ellas hicieron algunos buenos conciertos (yo vi 4 o 5), hicieron alguna sesión de estudio, pero ahora están paradas. Normalmente solo vemos una o dos chicas en un grupo, a veces en las voces (como Les Baton Rouge, Traumatics, Asfixia), pero nunca enteramente bandas de chicas.
ALM. Supongo que la escena punk de Brasil es también un referente para vosotros pues compartís idioma, ¿Qué bandas te gustan más de la escena punk brasileña de todos los tiempos?
B. La escena brasileña es inmensa! Increíble! Y una gran referencia para nosotros. Montones y montones de bandas que salen año tras año, es imposible recordar a todas las mejores, pero Ratos De Porão, Olho Seco, Garotos Podres, Cabelo Duro, Periferia SA, Fogo Cruzado, Vírus 27 y Cólera son mis preferidas de siempre. Más recientemente, Agrotóxico, Ação Direta, Luta Armada y DFC. Hablando de bandas de chicas, me gustan Kaos Klitoriano, Bulimia y Menstruação Anárquica (todavía existen, ahora con una chica solo).
ALM. ¿Conoces la escena punk del estado español? ¿Qué bandas te gustan más? ¿Conoces a la banda gallega Siniestro Total y la versión que hacían del tema de Trabalhadores do Comércio “Chamen a policía”? ¿Conoces algo de la escena de Galicia, zona donde el idioma es bastante cercano al vuestro?
B. Puedes encontrar esto increíble, pero realmente solo conozco las grandes referencias (mea culpa). A veces sé de algunas buenas bandas con las que puedo contactar por el myspace o que puedo ver en directo aquí. Soziedad Alkohólika, Kortatu, La Polla Records y Eskorbuto son mis favoritas. No, no conocía a Siniestro Total, he escuchado algunas canciones, están bastante bien. Una cosa que sé es que la gente de Galicia siempre presta atención por la escena portuguesa y recibe muy bien a las bandas de aquí. Probablemente estaré allí en febrero de 2011 pinchando con dos bandas en directo, Gauza y Asfixia, la fecha concreta está por confirmar. Sí, la lengua parecida ayuda mucho.
ALM. ¿Qué bandas actuales de la escena portuguesa nos puedes recomendar y qué páginas web, festivales, bares o tiendas de discos no podemos dejar de visitar si vamos a tu ciudad (Lisboa)?
B. Bandas activas, por supuesto Gazua, Peste & Sida, Mata-Ratos, PunkSinatra, Dalai Lume, Albert Fish, Barafunda Total, Decreto 77, Acromaníacos, Simbiose, Motornoise, Raiva!!!, Ventas De Exterko (tocaron en Badajoz hace poco), Revolta, Sicksin, Mão Morta y Tara Perdida (de esta última, recomiendo el material antiguo).
Algunas Bandas Tributo que conozco y que dan un gran show en directo son Kamones (temas de los Ramones) y Re-Censurados (versiones de este disuelto grupo portugués llamado Censurados, sé que tenéis una banda allí con el mismo nombre también).
Webs:
http://rocknoliceu.blogspot.com/
http://cruelsuburb.blogspot.com/
http://antitude.blogspot.com/
http://www.xuxajurassica.com/
http://rockemportugal.blogspot.com/
http://crackinthecloud.blogspot.com/
http://santosdacasa.blogspot.com/
http://rockdascadeias.blogspot.com/
Festivales: Infected Records, Outsider, Brenh´Arder, Festival Em Cima Do Joelho.
Pubs/salas de conciertos: Musicbox, Revolver, Casa De Lafões, Berlin, Academia de Linda-a-Velha, Cine-Teatro Corroios (todas en las que he estado y me gustaron, en Lisboa y alrededores).
Tiendas de discos: por supuesto Carbono (es muy parecida a las tiendas de Londres, con muchas rarezas), hay otras que están bastante bien pero no tanto como ésta.
ALM. Tus diez discos favoritos de punk portugués (bandas de los años 80) y de bandas del resto del mundo (todas las épocas):
B. No particularmente en este orden…
- Peste & Sida “Veneno”.
- Xutos & Pontapés “78-82”
- Aqui D´El Rock “Há Que Violentar O Sistema”.
- V/A “Ao Vivo No Rock Rendez-Vous”.
- Mão Morta “Mão Morta”.
- Mata-Ratos “Rock Radiactivo”.
- Censurados “Censurados”.
- Crise Total “Bem Viva No RRV”.
- Kú De Judas “Ao Vivo”.
- Corrosão Caótica “Corrosão Caótica”.
- The Exploited “Punk´s Not Dead”.
- Sex Pistols “Never Mind The Bollocks...”.
- The Clash “The Clash”.
- GBH “City Baby Attacked By Rats”.
- One Way System “Best Of”.
- Oxymoron “Best Before 2000”.
- Misfits “Walk Among Us”.
- Ramones “It´s Alive”.
- Ratos De Porão “Ao Vivo”.
- Ministry “Psalm 69”.
ALM. Gracias por todo, es el momento de decir cualquier cosa que se haya quedado fuera y de despedirse…
B. Sigamos escuchando música, hay un montón de bandas por descubrir. Escuchad los temas de una extinta banda portuguesa formada en Londres llamada The Parkinsons, están muy bien! Y por otra parte, oíd una de las más activas bandas portuguesas llamada Gazua, los cuales sacaron 3 discos consecutivamente en 3 años (en la escena underground de aquí, los únicos).
Gracias por leer esto y por el interés en las cosas de Portugal. Divertíos, si es posible, con buena música.
- Contactos:
- http://billy-news.blogspot.com/
- http://billy-news-media.blogspot.com/
- http://www.myspace.com/billynews
Entrevista a Billy sobre la historia del Punk en Portugal (English Version)
ALM. Hello, to start, introduce yourself and tell us your age, what is your job and how did you get into punk music (first bands that you listened to, first concerts, etc)?
Billy. Hi, I´m forty years old, have worked for an independent music company for the last eleven years, but it closed and now I don´t have a job. I was very young when I first heard the Ramones, they played in Portugal in 1980 and some guys showed me a record, songs, t-shirts and it all started that year. But only two years later I became a real fan of punk and hung around with punks. Some time later I started to see Portuguese bands live, some of them we couldn't call ´punk ` but I paid more attention to punk gigs and everything involved with that in 1985.
ALM. Can you tell us something about your activities into the punk scene (blogs, dj, bands, fanzines, etc)? Tell us the most memorable concerts that you have seen?
B. Well, for me it all started with the blog in 2004, but I was always going to gigs, talking with the bands and shared some friendship moments, even played bass just for fun with some of them. The punk scene in 1990 was returning quite strong here, there were some fanzines trying to inform people, but not enough. In 1996 when The Exploited played for the first time in Portugal (that was one of my most memorable gigs ever, with Ratos De Porão and great Portuguese punk bands Crise Total, Mata-Ratos and Tara Perdida) they influenced many people, the underground scene was very active, promoting gigs, doing fanzines and reunions, I helped too. Later, it was very confusing again, especially getting the right information, dates of gigs, festivals and stuff like that, so I decided to start Billy News just to inform about the dates… And my friend’s can’t say that they didn’t know about it… «Now you know where to search». Other gigs I remember were with Portuguese bands in special places (like Rock Rendez-Vous in Lisbon, one of the seminal places).
ALM. I think in Portugal something similar happened to Spain and due to military dictatorship the counter culture movements (punk, new wave, etc) occurred at the same time after this period finished. What band or bands can be considered the first punk band in Portugal and what year was it?
B. Well, you´re right, we had a dictator for almost fifty years and it all ended in 1974. After that everybody was very confused here. How I see it, the punk scene started in 1979 with some UK bands playing, Eddie & The Hot Rods, later The Clash, but some people were very interested in the punk explosion in 1977, some radio presenters and journalists give some feedback of what was happening in that time. The first punk band to publish a record was Aqui D´El Rock (1979) but others were very active, Minas & Armadilhas, Faíscas and Xutos & Pontapés (they still exist now, one of the greatest portuguese bands ever). Later, punk was quite low, new wave was getting more attention and punk bands emerged again in 1985.
ALM. What areas or cities had an important punk scene in the 80’s? Do they continue to be so today?
B. We can consider the more important cities, more urban stylish, Lisboa, Porto, Coimbra but others sometimes promoted punk gigs and scene, like Faro, Aveiro, Leiria, Guarda.
ALM. Do you have evidence that there were problems between other tribes (mods, rockers, heavys, etc) in those 80 years?
B. Most problems were with the skinheads, in those times people just didn´t like each other but normally it was no problem at all, only ´ugly faces` to each other when confronted. Rockabillies, metal fans were very ´closed` tribes and did their own stuff, only in places that they used to be, separately. But those times are gone.
ALM. I suppose that in the 80 years a part of Ramones, Clash, Sex Pistols, etc, the young punks began to listen to Discharge, Exploited, Dead Kennedys, etc too. What bands would be the pioneers of Second wave punk sound or hard core in Portugal?
B. Many bands were influenced by the ´UK 82 sound`, especially Crise Total, Grito Final, Kú De Judas, Derniere Cri, C.I.A.neto. Later, Injusticed League, Renegados de Boliqueime, Raiva!!!, M.A.D. and much more. Even Mata-Ratos that are a classic punk rock band (still active, since 1982) had a hardcore moment. Some others had a small influence on this sound, but with a mix of hardcore and metal too, Corrosão Caótica, 31, Pé De Cabra. But there was more.
ALM. What would be the reference label or labels to the punk youth of the first punk times in Portugal? And what fanzines?
B. Some punk labels were created but only existed for one edition. Unfortunately, most of the fanzines were the same. We didn´t have strong punk labels as far as I know. Only later, one of the most important is Rastilho (created in 1996 and still active), they produced many catalogues, information in the paper and fanzines. Alarm! and Fast´N`Loud did it too. Infected Records is doing a great job.
ALM. I thing that in Portugal is also happening a little the revival phenomenon, old bands from 80’s that are back back to activity again, What is your opinion about it? Do you think it is positive for the present scene?
B. Yes, the best example here is Crise Total. Formed in 1983, ended in 1988, they returned in 1996 for one year and returned again last year (both returns only had two original members). Peste & Sida was a different issue, they changed a lot of their line-up which caused bad moments and ended about eight years later. They returned only once (with two members too) and are a great band nowdays. I think that if everyone in the band had the same spirit, the same passion for those earlier moments, it would be ok! Young bands when they play together, will usually ask them about issues they’ve experienced and talk a lot, so can be positive in both ways. But time can´t turn back, if they want to have fun, it´s fine. The main problem is when there is one founder member trying to use the name or do a different sound (they should start another band, for sure).
ALM. What can you tell us about a band like Xutos e Pontapés, I think this band in the beginning were bound to the punk scene and now they are a well-known rock band in Portugal?
B. Yes, as I said they were one of the first punk bands in Portugal, started in 1979. They are a good band, I used to call them ´the portuguese Rolling Stones` but I really didn´t pay much attention to their last albums. After some time, they put the punk sound away, made only rock ´n´roll songs, but in the last album they created some lyrics that in some context we call ‘the punk spirit’. In 1982 to 1986 they influenced a lot of punk bands with their characteristic sound and helped a lot of small punk bands, doing ´tours` together.
ALM. Did heroin affect a lot the first Young generation of punks in Portugal like what happened in Spain and in general all over the world? What were “the most notable deaths” (well-known, like Sid Vicious in Uk or Eskorbuto in Spain, etc) in the Portugal punk and what were they due to (drugs, Aids, crash car, etc)?
B. Here it was exactly the same, especially in the middle of the eighties. Heroin killed a lot of punks and people that stayed together (in bands or not), were less and less. The movement was slow and almost non existant for a while. Bands ended for that reason. Car accidents killed some members too, like Carlos Aguilar, drummer from Kú De Judas. Others had heart attacks but are still alive.
ALM. Is there a big anarcho punk scene in Portugal? Who were the first bands to vindicate themselves as anarchists? Is there a squatt movement in Portugal or some other sort of anarcho punk activism?
B. Not big, but a fervent one. Some groups have weekly reunions and debates, and send mails with a lot of topics. Almost an undercover movement, but when something is happening on the streets, they are there. The main problem is that there are a lot of different groups and they should stand together to be stronger... In my opinion. Some bands call themselves anarchists but don’t ´make a flag` of it. Years ago some squats were very strong, doing cultural and social stuff, with debates, reunions and gigs that captivate a lot of people, but the Police closed most of them when they started to get noticed. Nowdays we can see anarcho activism on flyers distributed by hand. If someone wants more information they must go to meetings.
ALM. Who were the first Oi bands in Portugal? Today, is the skinhead scene big there? Is there trouble between the different skins and punks or are they united?
B. Here we have different skins all with different ideas. Not really united the punks, but people get to known each other (by personality, not style) and sometimes have a great relationship organizing gigs together. Sometimes we hear about fights but it’s not usual. The first Oi bands is difficult to say, Albert Fish is a punk band (1995) one of the first to appeal to the union between punks and skins. Nowdays there are some bands that are keeping that feeling strong and active, like C4, Facção Oposta and Mancha Negra.
Differences between punks is not really a ´true problem` or the cause of aggression problems, but one of the things that I used to condemn is that they don’t stick together. The portuguese punk movement is filled with people that always speak badly about each other and stuff like that and I think the punk spirit is the opposite. For example, if you don´t really like a band, just don´t pay attention... and do not give a bad opinion all the time, like a parrot.
ALM. Are there or have there been many girls fronting punk bands in Portugal? Could you tell us some band names?
B. Sometimes we hear about it, but they soon disappear. The last that I know of is Un-Predictable, they gave some good gigs (I saw about 4 or 5), made some studio sessions, but now they have stopped. Normally we just see one or two girls in a band, sometimes in vocals (like Les Baton Rouge, Traumatics, Asfixia) but not totally female.
ALM. I guess that the Brazilian punk scene is also a reference for you because you share the language. Which bands are your favorite from the Brazilian punk scene (of all time)?
B.The Brazilian scene is huge! Incredible! And a big reference for us. Lots and lots of bands formed every year, it’s impossible to remember all the good ones, but Ratos De Porão, Olho Seco, Garotos Podres, Cabelo Duro, Periferia SA, Fogo Cruzado, Vírus 27 e Cólera are my favourites, ever. More recently, Agrotóxico, Ação Direta, Luta Armada e DFC. Talking about girl bands, there are many too, I like Kaos Klitoriano, Bulimia and Menstruação Anárquica (still exist, now only with one girl).
ALM. Do you know the Spanish scene? What bands do you like? Do you know Siniestro Total from Galicia and their Trabalhadores do Comércio cover (“Chamen a policia”)? Do you know somethink about the punk scene from Galicia, where their language is so similar to Portuguese?
B. You may find it incredible, but I only know very well the big references (shame on me). Sometimes I hear some good bands that I might contact via ´Myspace` pages or that I see live here. Soziedad Alkoholika, Kortatu, La Polla Records, Eskorbuto are my favourites. No, I didn´t know Siniestro Total, I´ve checked some songs, are quite alright. One thing I know is that people in Galicia always pay attention to the portuguese scene and receive very well portuguese bands. I´m probably going to be there in February 2011 doing a DJ session with two bands live, Gazua e Asfixia, the right day is to be confirmed. Yes, the similar language helps a lot.
ALM. What current bands from the Portugusese scene do you recommend to us and what websites, festivals, pubs or record shops we must visit if we are going to your city?
B. Active bands, for sure, Gazua, Peste & Sida, Mata-Ratos, PunkSinatra, Dalai Lume, Albert Fish, Barafunda Total, Decreto 77, Acromaníacos, Simbiose, Motornoise, Raiva!!!, Ventas De Exterko (played in Badajoz 2 days ago), Revolta, Sicksin, Mão Morta and Tara Perdida (for this one, I recommend the old stuff).
Some tribute bands that I know give a great show live is Kamones (Ramones songs) and Re-Censurados (covers from a extinct portuguese band called Censurados, I know that you have one with the same name, too).
Websites:
http://rocknoliceu.blogspot.com/
http://cruelsuburb.blogspot.com/
http://antitude.blogspot.com/
http://www.xuxajurassica.com/
http://rockemportugal.blogspot.com/
http://crackinthecloud.blogspot.com/
http://santosdacasa.blogspot.com/
http://rockdascadeias.blogspot.com/
Festivals: Infected Records, Outsider, Brenh´Arder, Festival Em Cima Do Joelho
Pubs/gig rooms: Musicbox, Revolver, Casa De Lafões, Berlin, Academia de Linda-a-Velha, Cine-Teatro Corroios (all that I´ve been and like it, in Lisbon and around)
Record Shop: for sure Carbono (is very similar with London shops with a lot of rarities), there are others quite alright but not like this one.
ALM. Top ten Portuguese disc (80’s bands) and Top ten rest of the world (of all time):
B. Not especially in this particular order...
- Peste & Sida “Veneno”
- Xutos & Pontapés “78-82”
- Aqui D´El Rock “Há Que Violentar O Sistema”
- V/A “Ao Vivo No Rock Rendez-Vous”
- Mão Morta “Mão Morta”
- Mata-Ratos “Rock Radiactivo”
- Censurados “Censurados”
- Crise Total “Bem Viva No RRV”
- Kú De Judas “Ao Vivo”
- Corrosão Caótica “Corrosão Caótica”
- The Exploited “Punk´s Not Dead”
- Sex Pistols “Never Mind The Bollocks...”
- The Clash “The Clash”
- GBH “City Baby Attacked By Rats”
- One Way System “Best Of”
- Oxymoron “Best Before 2000”
- Misfits “Walk Among Us”
- Ramones “It´s Alive”
- Ratos De Porão “Ao Vivo”
- Ministry “Psalm 69”
ALM. Thanks for all, It’s time to tell us anything that has been left out and say goodbye...
B. Just keep listening to the music, there is a lot of good bands to be discovered. Check the songs of an extinct portuguese band formed in London, called The Parkinsons, were very good! And also, check one of the more active bands in Portugal called Gazua that released 3 albums in 3 consecutive years (in the undergroud I think is the only one, here).
Thanks for reading this and for the interest in Portuguese music and stuff. Have fun, if possible with good music.
- Contacts:
- http://billy-news.blogspot.com/
- http://billy-news-media.blogspot.com/
- http://www.myspace.com/billynews
Billy. Hi, I´m forty years old, have worked for an independent music company for the last eleven years, but it closed and now I don´t have a job. I was very young when I first heard the Ramones, they played in Portugal in 1980 and some guys showed me a record, songs, t-shirts and it all started that year. But only two years later I became a real fan of punk and hung around with punks. Some time later I started to see Portuguese bands live, some of them we couldn't call ´punk ` but I paid more attention to punk gigs and everything involved with that in 1985.
ALM. Can you tell us something about your activities into the punk scene (blogs, dj, bands, fanzines, etc)? Tell us the most memorable concerts that you have seen?
B. Well, for me it all started with the blog in 2004, but I was always going to gigs, talking with the bands and shared some friendship moments, even played bass just for fun with some of them. The punk scene in 1990 was returning quite strong here, there were some fanzines trying to inform people, but not enough. In 1996 when The Exploited played for the first time in Portugal (that was one of my most memorable gigs ever, with Ratos De Porão and great Portuguese punk bands Crise Total, Mata-Ratos and Tara Perdida) they influenced many people, the underground scene was very active, promoting gigs, doing fanzines and reunions, I helped too. Later, it was very confusing again, especially getting the right information, dates of gigs, festivals and stuff like that, so I decided to start Billy News just to inform about the dates… And my friend’s can’t say that they didn’t know about it… «Now you know where to search». Other gigs I remember were with Portuguese bands in special places (like Rock Rendez-Vous in Lisbon, one of the seminal places).
ALM. I think in Portugal something similar happened to Spain and due to military dictatorship the counter culture movements (punk, new wave, etc) occurred at the same time after this period finished. What band or bands can be considered the first punk band in Portugal and what year was it?
B. Well, you´re right, we had a dictator for almost fifty years and it all ended in 1974. After that everybody was very confused here. How I see it, the punk scene started in 1979 with some UK bands playing, Eddie & The Hot Rods, later The Clash, but some people were very interested in the punk explosion in 1977, some radio presenters and journalists give some feedback of what was happening in that time. The first punk band to publish a record was Aqui D´El Rock (1979) but others were very active, Minas & Armadilhas, Faíscas and Xutos & Pontapés (they still exist now, one of the greatest portuguese bands ever). Later, punk was quite low, new wave was getting more attention and punk bands emerged again in 1985.
ALM. What areas or cities had an important punk scene in the 80’s? Do they continue to be so today?
B. We can consider the more important cities, more urban stylish, Lisboa, Porto, Coimbra but others sometimes promoted punk gigs and scene, like Faro, Aveiro, Leiria, Guarda.
ALM. Do you have evidence that there were problems between other tribes (mods, rockers, heavys, etc) in those 80 years?
B. Most problems were with the skinheads, in those times people just didn´t like each other but normally it was no problem at all, only ´ugly faces` to each other when confronted. Rockabillies, metal fans were very ´closed` tribes and did their own stuff, only in places that they used to be, separately. But those times are gone.
ALM. I suppose that in the 80 years a part of Ramones, Clash, Sex Pistols, etc, the young punks began to listen to Discharge, Exploited, Dead Kennedys, etc too. What bands would be the pioneers of Second wave punk sound or hard core in Portugal?
B. Many bands were influenced by the ´UK 82 sound`, especially Crise Total, Grito Final, Kú De Judas, Derniere Cri, C.I.A.neto. Later, Injusticed League, Renegados de Boliqueime, Raiva!!!, M.A.D. and much more. Even Mata-Ratos that are a classic punk rock band (still active, since 1982) had a hardcore moment. Some others had a small influence on this sound, but with a mix of hardcore and metal too, Corrosão Caótica, 31, Pé De Cabra. But there was more.
ALM. What would be the reference label or labels to the punk youth of the first punk times in Portugal? And what fanzines?
B. Some punk labels were created but only existed for one edition. Unfortunately, most of the fanzines were the same. We didn´t have strong punk labels as far as I know. Only later, one of the most important is Rastilho (created in 1996 and still active), they produced many catalogues, information in the paper and fanzines. Alarm! and Fast´N`Loud did it too. Infected Records is doing a great job.
ALM. I thing that in Portugal is also happening a little the revival phenomenon, old bands from 80’s that are back back to activity again, What is your opinion about it? Do you think it is positive for the present scene?
B. Yes, the best example here is Crise Total. Formed in 1983, ended in 1988, they returned in 1996 for one year and returned again last year (both returns only had two original members). Peste & Sida was a different issue, they changed a lot of their line-up which caused bad moments and ended about eight years later. They returned only once (with two members too) and are a great band nowdays. I think that if everyone in the band had the same spirit, the same passion for those earlier moments, it would be ok! Young bands when they play together, will usually ask them about issues they’ve experienced and talk a lot, so can be positive in both ways. But time can´t turn back, if they want to have fun, it´s fine. The main problem is when there is one founder member trying to use the name or do a different sound (they should start another band, for sure).
ALM. What can you tell us about a band like Xutos e Pontapés, I think this band in the beginning were bound to the punk scene and now they are a well-known rock band in Portugal?
B. Yes, as I said they were one of the first punk bands in Portugal, started in 1979. They are a good band, I used to call them ´the portuguese Rolling Stones` but I really didn´t pay much attention to their last albums. After some time, they put the punk sound away, made only rock ´n´roll songs, but in the last album they created some lyrics that in some context we call ‘the punk spirit’. In 1982 to 1986 they influenced a lot of punk bands with their characteristic sound and helped a lot of small punk bands, doing ´tours` together.
ALM. Did heroin affect a lot the first Young generation of punks in Portugal like what happened in Spain and in general all over the world? What were “the most notable deaths” (well-known, like Sid Vicious in Uk or Eskorbuto in Spain, etc) in the Portugal punk and what were they due to (drugs, Aids, crash car, etc)?
B. Here it was exactly the same, especially in the middle of the eighties. Heroin killed a lot of punks and people that stayed together (in bands or not), were less and less. The movement was slow and almost non existant for a while. Bands ended for that reason. Car accidents killed some members too, like Carlos Aguilar, drummer from Kú De Judas. Others had heart attacks but are still alive.
ALM. Is there a big anarcho punk scene in Portugal? Who were the first bands to vindicate themselves as anarchists? Is there a squatt movement in Portugal or some other sort of anarcho punk activism?
B. Not big, but a fervent one. Some groups have weekly reunions and debates, and send mails with a lot of topics. Almost an undercover movement, but when something is happening on the streets, they are there. The main problem is that there are a lot of different groups and they should stand together to be stronger... In my opinion. Some bands call themselves anarchists but don’t ´make a flag` of it. Years ago some squats were very strong, doing cultural and social stuff, with debates, reunions and gigs that captivate a lot of people, but the Police closed most of them when they started to get noticed. Nowdays we can see anarcho activism on flyers distributed by hand. If someone wants more information they must go to meetings.
ALM. Who were the first Oi bands in Portugal? Today, is the skinhead scene big there? Is there trouble between the different skins and punks or are they united?
B. Here we have different skins all with different ideas. Not really united the punks, but people get to known each other (by personality, not style) and sometimes have a great relationship organizing gigs together. Sometimes we hear about fights but it’s not usual. The first Oi bands is difficult to say, Albert Fish is a punk band (1995) one of the first to appeal to the union between punks and skins. Nowdays there are some bands that are keeping that feeling strong and active, like C4, Facção Oposta and Mancha Negra.
Differences between punks is not really a ´true problem` or the cause of aggression problems, but one of the things that I used to condemn is that they don’t stick together. The portuguese punk movement is filled with people that always speak badly about each other and stuff like that and I think the punk spirit is the opposite. For example, if you don´t really like a band, just don´t pay attention... and do not give a bad opinion all the time, like a parrot.
ALM. Are there or have there been many girls fronting punk bands in Portugal? Could you tell us some band names?
B. Sometimes we hear about it, but they soon disappear. The last that I know of is Un-Predictable, they gave some good gigs (I saw about 4 or 5), made some studio sessions, but now they have stopped. Normally we just see one or two girls in a band, sometimes in vocals (like Les Baton Rouge, Traumatics, Asfixia) but not totally female.
ALM. I guess that the Brazilian punk scene is also a reference for you because you share the language. Which bands are your favorite from the Brazilian punk scene (of all time)?
B.The Brazilian scene is huge! Incredible! And a big reference for us. Lots and lots of bands formed every year, it’s impossible to remember all the good ones, but Ratos De Porão, Olho Seco, Garotos Podres, Cabelo Duro, Periferia SA, Fogo Cruzado, Vírus 27 e Cólera are my favourites, ever. More recently, Agrotóxico, Ação Direta, Luta Armada e DFC. Talking about girl bands, there are many too, I like Kaos Klitoriano, Bulimia and Menstruação Anárquica (still exist, now only with one girl).
ALM. Do you know the Spanish scene? What bands do you like? Do you know Siniestro Total from Galicia and their Trabalhadores do Comércio cover (“Chamen a policia”)? Do you know somethink about the punk scene from Galicia, where their language is so similar to Portuguese?
B. You may find it incredible, but I only know very well the big references (shame on me). Sometimes I hear some good bands that I might contact via ´Myspace` pages or that I see live here. Soziedad Alkoholika, Kortatu, La Polla Records, Eskorbuto are my favourites. No, I didn´t know Siniestro Total, I´ve checked some songs, are quite alright. One thing I know is that people in Galicia always pay attention to the portuguese scene and receive very well portuguese bands. I´m probably going to be there in February 2011 doing a DJ session with two bands live, Gazua e Asfixia, the right day is to be confirmed. Yes, the similar language helps a lot.
ALM. What current bands from the Portugusese scene do you recommend to us and what websites, festivals, pubs or record shops we must visit if we are going to your city?
B. Active bands, for sure, Gazua, Peste & Sida, Mata-Ratos, PunkSinatra, Dalai Lume, Albert Fish, Barafunda Total, Decreto 77, Acromaníacos, Simbiose, Motornoise, Raiva!!!, Ventas De Exterko (played in Badajoz 2 days ago), Revolta, Sicksin, Mão Morta and Tara Perdida (for this one, I recommend the old stuff).
Some tribute bands that I know give a great show live is Kamones (Ramones songs) and Re-Censurados (covers from a extinct portuguese band called Censurados, I know that you have one with the same name, too).
Websites:
http://rocknoliceu.blogspot.com/
http://cruelsuburb.blogspot.com/
http://antitude.blogspot.com/
http://www.xuxajurassica.com/
http://rockemportugal.blogspot.com/
http://crackinthecloud.blogspot.com/
http://santosdacasa.blogspot.com/
http://rockdascadeias.blogspot.com/
Festivals: Infected Records, Outsider, Brenh´Arder, Festival Em Cima Do Joelho
Pubs/gig rooms: Musicbox, Revolver, Casa De Lafões, Berlin, Academia de Linda-a-Velha, Cine-Teatro Corroios (all that I´ve been and like it, in Lisbon and around)
Record Shop: for sure Carbono (is very similar with London shops with a lot of rarities), there are others quite alright but not like this one.
ALM. Top ten Portuguese disc (80’s bands) and Top ten rest of the world (of all time):
B. Not especially in this particular order...
- Peste & Sida “Veneno”
- Xutos & Pontapés “78-82”
- Aqui D´El Rock “Há Que Violentar O Sistema”
- V/A “Ao Vivo No Rock Rendez-Vous”
- Mão Morta “Mão Morta”
- Mata-Ratos “Rock Radiactivo”
- Censurados “Censurados”
- Crise Total “Bem Viva No RRV”
- Kú De Judas “Ao Vivo”
- Corrosão Caótica “Corrosão Caótica”
- The Exploited “Punk´s Not Dead”
- Sex Pistols “Never Mind The Bollocks...”
- The Clash “The Clash”
- GBH “City Baby Attacked By Rats”
- One Way System “Best Of”
- Oxymoron “Best Before 2000”
- Misfits “Walk Among Us”
- Ramones “It´s Alive”
- Ratos De Porão “Ao Vivo”
- Ministry “Psalm 69”
ALM. Thanks for all, It’s time to tell us anything that has been left out and say goodbye...
B. Just keep listening to the music, there is a lot of good bands to be discovered. Check the songs of an extinct portuguese band formed in London, called The Parkinsons, were very good! And also, check one of the more active bands in Portugal called Gazua that released 3 albums in 3 consecutive years (in the undergroud I think is the only one, here).
Thanks for reading this and for the interest in Portuguese music and stuff. Have fun, if possible with good music.
- Contacts:
- http://billy-news.blogspot.com/
- http://billy-news-media.blogspot.com/
- http://www.myspace.com/billynews
jueves, 9 de diciembre de 2010
Manifestación- Concierto 6 Anys Sense Roger
MANIFESTACIÓN
- Viernes, 10 de diciembre a las 19:30 horas en la Plaza Lesseps de Barcelona (delante de la biblioteca). Parada de Metro: Lesseps.
CONCIERTO
- Viernes, 10 de diciembre en Los Blokes Fantasma (Barcelona).
DISUNDEAD - http://www.myspace.com/disundead
ANTIPASMA- http://www.myspace.com/antipasma
INFÄME - http://www.myspace.com/infamepunk
HIJXS TARADXS - http://www.myspace.com/hijxstaradxsband
Skate and Fight Festival- Streetcore Fest
- Viernes, 10/12/2010: Skate and Fight Festival. US Bombs- Jet Market. Estraperlo club del Ritme (Badalona). 22:00 horas. 12/ 15 €
- Sábado, 11/12/2010: Skate and Fight Festival. Youth Brigade- Godfarts- Col.lapse. Estraperlo club del Ritme (Badalona). 22:00 horas. 12/ 15 €
- Sábado, 11/12/2010: Streetcore Fest 2010. Toxpack- Seeds of Hate- Malas Lenguas- VonDanikens. La Sala (Sabadell). 21:00 horas. 8 €